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Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:56:00 -
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because reminding people that High Security doesn't mean 100% safety and that you can and will be punished for not paying attention is extremely satisfying. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 00:46:00 -
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I gank miners not because I want them to quit the game, but because I want them to understand that EVE is not a single player game. It is also not a game where you can safely walk away from the computer while you are undocked and in space, regardless of the security status of the system.
I truly believe that the act of ganking is educational. If the ganked chooses not to learn from it, well then I'll just have to come back and do it again until it sinks in. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 01:10:00 -
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Domina Trix wrote:I can see where you are coming from about the afk'ing but what has ganking miners got to do with a single player game?
There are a special breed of players out there who truly believe that they are entitled to play EVE without being influenced by other players in any way shape or form. That is; what they really want is a single player game. These are usually miners, though not always. I would argue that Infinity Ziona was a pretty good example of a ninja missioner/PVPer who felt this way.
Ganking players with this kind of attitude is an education. The lesson to them is; this is a multiplayer game. Other players play this game at the same time as you. This is a sandbox game, which means things can be done to you against your will. It also means defense is your own responsibility.
Some learn, most don't. A few even realise that EVE is not the right game for them, and leave. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 02:17:00 -
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malcovas Henderson wrote: What you are saying, that unless you skill up in combat first, you are not allowed to mine. You know full well that MOST miners and haulers train into the trade they are being used for, and options for fighting back are very limited to them.
I was unaware that characters that train into mining barges are physically unable to train into shield upgrades, mechanics, shield operation etc etc. Or is it just that getting these skills takes all of a couple of days to get to IV on PVP characters somehow takes twice as long on a mining character?
This changes everything. CCP buff mining hulls please.
Also to Herzog; no most gankers do not actually want to drive players from the game. Why? Because we don't want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Or perhaps more accurately; we don't want to strangle the manbabies that cry the golden tears. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 08:23:00 -
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Cazador 64 wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote:FCON makes it easier & more amusing than it probably should be. I am pretty sure goons has it's fair share of derp losses also.
Not really, since Miniluv secretly keeps a list of all Goon neutral haulers and doesn't attack them. Unlike FCon freighters. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 10:17:00 -
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That was well written and an interesting point of view. Much of which I can get behind.
I bet it gets culled very quickly.
I would advise however, that aside from culling those who represent a playstyle that you find undesirable permanently, it might be actually worth the effort to give a little assistance to the few who do respond to their destruction in a sensible and/or positive manner in the same way CODE does.
You said you believe that you have driven perhaps 200 accounts from the game which you believe is ultimately beneficial as it culls an undesirable element from the playerbase. I would suggest that helping rehabilitate those who seem to actually "get" EVE to some extent is worth doing, as it can help EVE prosper by keeping the "right" people in. A two pronged solution to your dilemma, if you will. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.22 11:00:00 -
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Herr Wilkus wrote:(And yes, goons, I've heard about the mayo pics about 100 times. I don't care, I simply can't get worked up about the equivalent of a college prank. Depraved?? GTFO.)
Speaking for myself, that whole incident was just tacky. I'd argue that it was over the line in that getting pictures of people undermines their anonymity (Even if their faces were blurred), and there are too many ways that could end badly outside of the game client, and game meta.
I do agree however, with your assessment about the validity of claims of "psychological torture" and "cyber-bullying." |
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